tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post5269084861516678792..comments2024-01-20T23:55:26.269-08:00Comments on The Detritus Review: Friday Quckie: Brahms' music was indeed intellectualUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-81599210478866498002010-10-11T10:50:11.412-07:002010-10-11T10:50:11.412-07:00That pop arrangement of the third movement has bee...That pop arrangement of the third movement has been in my head all weekend. Damn you, Gustav! I was happier not knowing about it!Dannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07294716220776027168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-81260332973555670132010-10-08T16:06:39.612-07:002010-10-08T16:06:39.612-07:00Schoenberg more-or-less attributes his brand of mo...Schoenberg more-or-less attributes his brand of modernism to Brahms in the essay (essays?) "Brahms the Progressive" in "Style and Idea."<br /><br />Oh, sorry; I meant, "kablooie!"Sator Arepohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00006808744513156317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-16597886446308414952010-10-08T14:40:25.099-07:002010-10-08T14:40:25.099-07:00Excellent theory, Danny -- if only she had made th...Excellent theory, Danny -- if only she had made that argument, or really any argument. I buy the position that both Brahms and Beethoven cared more about motivic development than creating tuneful melodic lines...but that's a way different thing than tossing in the aside that "although not melodic, Brahms' music...". That's pretty much crazy talk.<br /><br />However, your theory is much more fun, and I wish someone would have the balls to blame Brahms for modernism. That might cause Sator's head to explode.Gustavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05316458340368681169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-73966854881268141972010-10-08T14:13:51.141-07:002010-10-08T14:13:51.141-07:00I have a [crackpot] theory on this one. The theme...I have a [crackpot] theory on this one. The theme of the concert was the progress of late Romanticism (with a strong emphasize on historical musicological narrative), and I wonder if the reviewer was trying to insulate Brahms from what came next. After all, Brahms's intellectual style and obsessive motivic development made him one of the biggest influences Schoenberg had. So maybe something in the back of her head told her, "Brahms may have pushed music down the dark path, but I'll protect him by emphasizing it's expression and its classical form. Take that, Schoenberg! Your music isn't expressive at all and doesn't have any classical form."<br /><br />I want to know why she's trashing the Pilgrim's chorus sections of the Tannhauser Overture. They may not be, uh, loud, but they're the backbone of the piece.Dannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07294716220776027168noreply@blogger.com