tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post2054949497066924039..comments2024-01-20T23:55:26.269-08:00Comments on The Detritus Review: American Music Does Not ExistUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-30743192374298429752009-08-16T17:40:15.506-07:002009-08-16T17:40:15.506-07:00Wow, Gustav with the Charles Martin Loeffler refer...Wow, Gustav with the Charles Martin Loeffler reference.AnthonyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13162009600236566716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-89958388699124130612009-08-16T16:06:16.105-07:002009-08-16T16:06:16.105-07:00@ Emp: That's certainly part of it. A superi...@ Emp: That's certainly part of it. A superiority complex in Europe towards the colonies has always diminished the works of American artists. But...that doesn't make the music of Charles Martin Loeffler, for example, any less pedantic, and less inventive when compared to oh, say, the Ravel, who lived during very similar dates.<br /><br />@ AS: Decidedly so. Carpenter did separate himself in the 19-teens from other early Americans. Krazy Kat is a really fun piece.Gustavnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-5582413793909308282009-08-16T15:15:03.599-07:002009-08-16T15:15:03.599-07:00John Alden Carpenter strikes me as not especially ...John Alden Carpenter strikes me as not especially belonging to the group. His music has always struck me as being near the beginning of a unique American sound, and certainly less Germanic that his American cohorts. I think he studied with Elgar actually, but I'm too lazy to look that up. Certainly, writing pieces about comic strips, skyscrapers, and the like indicate a more modern sensibility, much like Ives' post-moderny modernism.<br /><br />This article reminds me of something Stephen Harke once said-- something to effect of there being a special place in Hell for people use the construction "Your music sounds like x crossed with y".AnthonyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13162009600236566716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-24630834205115419032009-08-15T20:53:48.151-07:002009-08-15T20:53:48.151-07:00Not to nitpick, but...
I'm pretty confident t...Not to nitpick, but...<br /><br />I'm pretty confident that the Romantic sense of self and identity (i.e., nationalism) stalled the acceptance of an "American" music into the classical tradition--Gottschalk being the exemplary recipient of the "Oh how cute! An American is trying to write German music" attitude. Instead, I would bet that American music was not "behind," as you put it, Gustav, but inferior--attitudes that continued to gain steam during Foote's career (feet?). In my opinion, it's an attitude that we have yet to shake.Empiricushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11629835829400843701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-16971479739983660552009-08-15T18:33:23.537-07:002009-08-15T18:33:23.537-07:00Heh. Good points by Gustav.Heh. Good points by Gustav.Sator Arepohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00006808744513156317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3371351138596055444.post-3667537080862310832009-08-15T16:36:48.241-07:002009-08-15T16:36:48.241-07:00Those four Rubáiyát pieces are generally nice, alt...Those four Rubáiyát pieces are generally nice, although, early American composers are ignored somewhat for the fact that are anomalies. Foote lived until 1937 but never wrote a note that couldn't have been written in 1880. The same is sadly true of the entire so-called Boston Six. While I guess it's important to mention that classical music has a history in the US, it was, much like modern-day health-care issues, far behind our european counterparts.<br /><br />Also, worthy of note, Mendelssohn did convert to christianity, Schumann converted to crazy, and Brahms probably did it with Schumann's wife.Gustavnoreply@blogger.com